Another Democrat Betraying Us to China
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Another Democrat Betraying Us to China
According to the DOJ, Candace Marie Claiborne, a former employee of the U.S. Department of State, pleaded guilty in April to a charge of conspiracy to defraud the United States, by lying to law enforcement and background investigators, and hiding her extensive contacts with, and gifts from, agents of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), in exchange for providing them with internal documents from the U.S. State Department.
Recall, Candace Marie Claiborne had a TOP SECRET security clearance and provided internal State Department documents to Chinese agents in exchange for gifts and benefits.
Claiborne also noted in her journal that she could “Generate 20k in 1 year” working with one of the PRC agents, who, shortly after wiring $2,480 to Claiborne, tasked her with providing internal U.S. Government analyses on a U.S.-Sino Strategic Economic Dialogue that had just concluded.
Claiborne, who confided to a co-conspirator that the PRC agents were “spies,” willfully misled State Department background investigators and FBI investigators about her contacts with those agents, the plea documents state. After the State Department and FBI investigators contacted her, Claiborne also instructed her co-conspirators to delete evidence connecting her to the PRC agents, the DOJ said.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... se-agents/
One of the reasons they squawk so loudly about Russia is to draw attention away from their connections, from Pelosi down to State Dept. officials like Claiborne, with China aka "The Beast".
The punishment should be death for traitors.
Recall, Candace Marie Claiborne had a TOP SECRET security clearance and provided internal State Department documents to Chinese agents in exchange for gifts and benefits.
Claiborne also noted in her journal that she could “Generate 20k in 1 year” working with one of the PRC agents, who, shortly after wiring $2,480 to Claiborne, tasked her with providing internal U.S. Government analyses on a U.S.-Sino Strategic Economic Dialogue that had just concluded.
Claiborne, who confided to a co-conspirator that the PRC agents were “spies,” willfully misled State Department background investigators and FBI investigators about her contacts with those agents, the plea documents state. After the State Department and FBI investigators contacted her, Claiborne also instructed her co-conspirators to delete evidence connecting her to the PRC agents, the DOJ said.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... se-agents/
One of the reasons they squawk so loudly about Russia is to draw attention away from their connections, from Pelosi down to State Dept. officials like Claiborne, with China aka "The Beast".
The punishment should be death for traitors.

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I agree that she should hang with Don Jr.
Don’t believe everything you think.
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Remind me what he was charged with? That said, if he DID commit treason, of course he should. Without question.

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Here is someone with a TS/SCI clearance answering whether he would report a contact by Russian intelligence operatives to the FBI...
“I don’t know,” he replied. “It’s hard to do hypotheticals...”
No security risk there.
https://www.axios.com/jared-kushner-tru ... e6611.html
“I don’t know,” he replied. “It’s hard to do hypotheticals...”
No security risk there.
https://www.axios.com/jared-kushner-tru ... e6611.html
Don’t believe everything you think.
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For gifts and benefits? $2,480 WIRED? What kind of secrets was she selling?

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Apparently she worked on a piecemeal system, where she was paid per document. This one, specifically, was "internal U.S. Government analyses on a U.S.-Sino Strategic Economic Dialogue" but of course it doesn't matter if it was secret designs for napkin dispensers. That she was planning to make $20k annually at that rate means she was trafficking in many different documents.

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Nafod, there are products that can help you through menopause. Your sad "whaddabouts" aside, one person has been convicted of treason, the other hasn't even been charged with a crime. I know it's hard, but try to be a better person.nafod wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:52 am Here is someone with a TS/SCI clearance answering whether he would report a contact by Russian intelligence operatives to the FBI...
“I don’t know,” he replied. “It’s hard to do hypotheticals...”
No security risk there.
https://www.axios.com/jared-kushner-tru ... e6611.html

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I wouldn't have bothered to respond, but you felt it necessary to highlight that this treasonous relatively low level minion in th big picture of things was a Democrat. Wanted to note that a Republican right hand advisor to the president, with likely access to a lot more SCI compartments of a much more sensitive nature, just came out and told the world, including Russians and Chinese and whoever else has cash, that he is open for business.Fat Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:06 pmNafod, there are products that can help you through menopause. Your sad "whaddabouts" aside, one person has been convicted of treason, the other hasn't even been charged with a crime. I know it's hard, but try to be a better person.nafod wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:52 am Here is someone with a TS/SCI clearance answering whether he would report a contact by Russian intelligence operatives to the FBI...
“I don’t know,” he replied. “It’s hard to do hypotheticals...”
No security risk there.
https://www.axios.com/jared-kushner-tru ... e6611.html
This, after getting his clearance over the objections of professionals who know a risk when the see one.
Don’t believe everything you think.
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https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-s ... ign-agentsAccording to the plea documents, Claiborne, 63, began working as an Office Management Specialist for the Department of State in 1999.
Office Management Specialist = secretary
Guessing she didn't have access to much.
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Hmmm...according to Fats, she was hand-picked by the George Soros and Hillary.
Don’t believe everything you think.
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The pattern of collaboration with China that permeates the Democratic party doesn't trouble you? But Don Jr. making stupid statements does? You might want to have your ethics prescription checked, because they're kinda not even sorta the same thing.nafod wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:21 pmI wouldn't have bothered to respond, but you felt it necessary to highlight that this treasonous relatively low level minion in th big picture of things was a Democrat. Wanted to note that a Republican right hand advisor to the president, with likely access to a lot more SCI compartments of a much more sensitive nature, just came out and told the world, including Russians and Chinese and whoever else has cash, that he is open for business.Fat Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:06 pmNafod, there are products that can help you through menopause. Your sad "whaddabouts" aside, one person has been convicted of treason, the other hasn't even been charged with a crime. I know it's hard, but try to be a better person.nafod wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:52 am Here is someone with a TS/SCI clearance answering whether he would report a contact by Russian intelligence operatives to the FBI...
“I don’t know,” he replied. “It’s hard to do hypotheticals...”
No security risk there.
https://www.axios.com/jared-kushner-tru ... e6611.html
This, after getting his clearance over the objections of professionals who know a risk when the see one.

"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
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I'm not seeing a pattern of collaboration, nor am I seeing anything that suggest this secretary was a Democrat, for that matter. She was a worker bee. I thought she'd be an SES or political appointee the way the Gateway Pundit site made it out to be. But she was just a secretary.Fat Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:36 pmThe pattern of collaboration with China that permeates the Democratic party doesn't trouble you? But Don Jr. making stupid statements does? You might want to have your ethics prescription checked, because they're kinda not even sorta the same thing.nafod wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:21 pmI wouldn't have bothered to respond, but you felt it necessary to highlight that this treasonous relatively low level minion in th big picture of things was a Democrat. Wanted to note that a Republican right hand advisor to the president, with likely access to a lot more SCI compartments of a much more sensitive nature, just came out and told the world, including Russians and Chinese and whoever else has cash, that he is open for business.Fat Cat wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:06 pmNafod, there are products that can help you through menopause. Your sad "whaddabouts" aside, one person has been convicted of treason, the other hasn't even been charged with a crime. I know it's hard, but try to be a better person.nafod wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:52 am Here is someone with a TS/SCI clearance answering whether he would report a contact by Russian intelligence operatives to the FBI...
“I don’t know,” he replied. “It’s hard to do hypotheticals...”
No security risk there.
https://www.axios.com/jared-kushner-tru ... e6611.html
This, after getting his clearance over the objections of professionals who know a risk when the see one.
I'm seeing your typical garden variety low-level spy getting busted. She would have sold secrets to the Israelis if she knew something they wanted and they were willing to pay.
As far as Jared Kushner saying something stupid, it is an absolute no-brainer that if you hold a TS/SCI and get approached by a foreign government, that you have to report it. All stop. End of story. Lose your clearance and go to jail for not reporting it if it happens. Lose your clearance if you're too stupid to know that. But this is the same guy that...
"Jared Kushner and Russia’s ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities...Ambassador Sergey Kislyak reported to his superiors in Moscow that Kushner, son-in-law and confidant to then-President-elect Trump, made the proposal during a meeting on Dec. 1 or 2 at Trump Tower, according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials. Kislyak said Kushner suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications."
I almost wish I was a foreign spy, the Trump family running our government are amateur hour morons in The Big Game. It'd be like a kid in a candy store.
Don’t believe everything you think.
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Wow, you should totally start a thread to discuss your findings, which appear to be at odds with the FBI, CIA, and Mueller investigations. Regarding the pattern of Democrats cozying up to China: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... hinese-spy

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It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
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Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s Ties To China Go Way Deeper Than An Alleged Office Spy
https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/08/se ... ffice-spy/
https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/08/se ... ffice-spy/

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Joe & Hunter Biden deserve a mention in the China corruption olympics.
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From the Mueller Report directly (you should actually read it, rather than trusting Gateway Pundit to do it for you)
Kislyak floated the idea of having Russian generals brief the Transition Team on the topic using a secure communications line. After Flynn explained that there was no secure line in the Transition Team offices, Kushner asked Kislyak if they could communicate using secure facilities at the Russian Embassy.
Don’t believe everything you think.
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Don Jr. isn't even mentioned in your quote. But let's be clear, if he betrays the US, then he goes in the hole with every other traitor. Only you have to have charges, a trial, and a conviction. Which is what happened in this broad's instance which has NOT happened in your weird tangent.

"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
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When Don Jr took that meeting with Russian intel operatives, telling them he would love to get dirt stolen from the DNC by the Russians, and then lied about the meeting when asked about it, he was betraying his country to the Russians for political gain. Reviewing what happened...
Did Don Jr recognize Russian intel efforts to bend the election in our adversary’s interest?A British publicist who helped arrange the meeting told the younger Trump in an email that the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had "very high level and sensitive information" that was "part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump."
It didn’t rise to a crime, in the same way that Trump’s 1,000,000 lies haven’t risen to Clinton’s perjury because Trump refused to go under oath and said he couldn’t recall anything in his written responses, but betrayal is betrayal.Trump Jr. replied, “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer."
Don’t believe everything you think.
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Why do you hate America, nafod? Do you really think this is a team sport and you're rooting for the good guys? Or that I'm pro-Republican? LOL.

"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell