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Yeah. I don't think harvard lol school grads writing articles about the law are impressive either.

But this is the conclusion from the first study she linked

" The results demonstrated limitations of surgical masks in this context, although they are to some extent protective."

Does it get better? It probably should. But maybe not. Idk. I'd probably lead with the good stuff first. But I am no NYT Journalist from Harvard.

There are way to many people in this country with amazing credentials that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. The average ching-chong Harvard grad hasn't ever been outside a very precious bubble of academic achievement.

Holy shit. This is just pro-mask argumentation. Correlation.

And we know asymptomatic is way over her 40% rate and that the mask all-stars now have detected infection rates over the US's.

And the Argentine ship was 100% tested and the Diamond Princess was not. On DP they tested symptomatics.

At least they admit the "masks protect other people not you" is dumb.

Nothing there discusses the supposed necessary disconnect between viral load and initial dose and symptomology. And how viral dose is causative and viral load not.

It's circular. You've assumed viral dose increases symptomology and then found instances of low symptomology and then argued masks caused this therefore initial dose causes symptoms.

Do you have any direct evidence that initial dose effects symptomology in covid?

Because we know viral load doesn't.

How would that even work mechanically?

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:12 pm There are way to many people in this country with amazing credentials that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. The average ching-chong Harvard grad hasn't ever been outside a very precious bubble of academic achievement.

Jfc ching chongs with science degrees from harvard talking about covid.

Smdh

Lmao. I knew the mask thing didn't make sense. I only just now realized it's circular reasoning.

Initial dose > symptoms > case of low symptoms > masks > initial dose > symptoms.

Survey but no direct evidence of initial viral dose causing more severe symptoms in covid sufferers.

https://srconstantin.github.io/2020/06/ ... ponse.html


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lOL fucking twitter



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Here's some fascinating raw data on superspreader events around the world. Pretty much all indoors but 1 or 2 out of over a thousand.

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:20 pm

Sangoma wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:43 am Can you elaborate?

Thankfully no.

Benny is right then, you are being a dick.

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:03 pm Here's some fascinating raw data on superspreader events around the world. Pretty much all indoors but 1 or 2 out of over a thousand.

Super interesting list. Summary: don't hang out in bars, nursing homes and prisons. I live relatively near San Quentin-in the prison system's infinite wisdom they decided to centralize all of the CA prison Covid cases in one location. That did not work out well for them.

lasalle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:47 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:03 pm Here's some fascinating raw data on superspreader events around the world. Pretty much all indoors but 1 or 2 out of over a thousand.

Super interesting list. Summary: don't hang out in bars, nursing homes and prisons. I live relatively near San Quentin-in the prison system's infinite wisdom they decided to centralize all of the CA prison Covid cases in one location. That did not work out well for them.

How so? I haven't heard about this. What has happened?

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https://www.kron4.com/news/california/2 ... ssion=true

+10% CFR

Whew

That low vitD and com-morbidities

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So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

I'm sorry to hear that. Make sure his affairs are in order.

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

Good luck. Good chance he stays symptom free. The PCRs can catch virus from weeks ago as well. And false positives are an issue. Have him retest. And get an antibody test as well.

If not, and he worsens, Demand anaerobic bacterial infection testing. Make sure and mention Lemierre's disease as the analogy. The testing has to be in an anaerobic bottle. It's just a test. They'll run it if you kick up a fuss. Treatment usually full spectrum anti-biotics.

I'm no MD but there seems to be massive anaerobic bacterial infections during the Cytokine Storm. Which occurs after viral load drops.

Good luck brother. I'll keep him in the light.

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KNOCK ON WOOD NO JINX

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Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

Why did he take the test? PCR or anti-body?

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:19 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

Why did he take the test? PCR or anti-body?

Not sure which test. He was given a test ahead of a minor surgical procedure. My wife says he still feels fine. Not a single symptom.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:07 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

I'm sorry to hear that. Make sure his affairs are in order.

I'll help my wife and her two siblings divvy up the $8.75 he's got in his checking account.

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:21 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:19 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

Why did he take the test? PCR or anti-body?

Not sure which test. He was given a test ahead of a minor surgical procedure. My wife says he still feels fine. Not a single symptom.

Good dude. Good. Have him retest PCR and get an anti-body test.

The anti-body will show if he had it and defeated it and is just showing dead viruses.

Have his wife etc whoever lives with him get anti-body tests as well.

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:26 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:21 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:19 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

Why did he take the test? PCR or anti-body?

Not sure which test. He was given a test ahead of a minor surgical procedure. My wife says he still feels fine. Not a single symptom.

Good dude. Good. Have him retest PCR and get an anti-body test.

The anti-body will show if he had it and defeated it and is just showing dead viruses.

Have his wife etc whoever lives with him get anti-body tests as well.

His seahag gf is getting tested and that's who I suspect gave it to him. I shudder to consider the exact vector of transmission.

Take that thought out back and shoot it in the head.

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:22 pm

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:07 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

I'm sorry to hear that. Make sure his affairs are in order.

I'll help my wife and her two siblings divvy up the $8.75 he's got in his checking account.

Make sure you give him a firm handshake.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:52 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:22 pm

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:07 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

I'm sorry to hear that. Make sure his affairs are in order.

I'll help my wife and her two siblings divvy up the $8.75 he's got in his checking account.

Make sure you give him a firm handshake.

It’s gonna be air fist bumps from 40ft away for here on out.

I'm just trying to give you a cheap laugh. Sorry this is happening. Maybe tell that hippie to get a job.

Kazuya Mishima wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:59 pm So, my father-in-law tested positive for this shit. He is 69, somewhat obese, has high blood pressure, requires dialysis three times per week, and is pretty much sedentary due to a car accident a decade ago. Zero symptoms, and feels just fine. What mean?

The odds remain in his favor, just got to stay ahead of any big negative turns.

Guy I work with had it (he is remote...California) and he sad every day was a new symptom. Crushing headache, shortness of breath, gastric joys, ended up with a bleeding sinus. Good times.

Given the incidence of this disease and sensitivity and specificity of the test chances are he does not have the disease.

It is hard to get across, even to doctors, that test results cannot be viewed without taking into account pre-test probability.

Amen.

I mean you're russian or something so definitionally insane and weirdly goofy but yeah that was a good post.