What to make of the election?

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:36 pm

It probably would have mattered if he wasn't running against Mr. Pussy Grabber Bragger

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:41 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:36 pm It probably would have mattered if he wasn't running against Mr. Pussy Grabber Bragger

You are planning on voting for a pussy grabber yourself, so go take a look in the mirror.

Bennyonesix1 · Post by **Bennyonesix1** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:58 pm

She seems lame and annoying and totally devoid of charisma and a real pain in the ass to work for or with.

But I am obviously not the target audience.

Maybe the AWFLs will get all fired up to vote for her. I have no idea at all what pushes their buttons.

I can't remember the last VP pick who made a diff. Palin? I like her but the media destroyed her.

Hanglow Joe · Post by **Hanglow Joe** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:10 pm

Kamala brings zero enthusiasm to the ticket. She comes off as an ambitious schoolmarm. She dropped out of the presidential race before a vote was cast in Iowa. To call her disingenious would be an understatement. Other than that one line at Biden, she didn't perform that well in the debate.

Tulsi Gabbard put her in a bodybag. That should soon be erased from YouTube anytime now.

Pence eviscerated Tim Kaine 4 years ago and he'll tear her a new hole for WIllie Brown to stick it into.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:20 pm

Michael Cohen’s book should be a good Fall read.

When Trump wanted to reach Russian President Vladimir Putin, via a secret back channel, I was tasked with making the connection in my Keystone Kop fashion. I stiffed contractors on his behalf, ripped off his business partners, lied to his wife Melania to hide his sexual infidelities, and bullied and screamed at anyone who threatened Trump’s path to power. From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt officials from the former Soviet Union, to catch and kill conspiracies to silence Trump’s clandestine lovers, I wasn’t just a witness to the president’s rise—I was an active and eager participant.

https://disloyalthebook.com/download-th ... ael-cohen/

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:32 pm

I dunno man, if Bolton's book didn't do it, Cohen's will?

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:52 pm

No...the support is baked in...but it will still be a fun read. I’m hoping it has pictures.

Shafpocalypse Now · Post by **Shafpocalypse Now** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:16 pm

I think a lot of you are underestimating Harris. The party is rallying behind her, in hopes of landing the executive job, thus she'll have the good advisors now.

If she isn't president by mid-2021 I'll be surprised. Biden seems to be falling further down the senility ladder daily. Trump is absolutely as sharp as a razor compared to Biden, there won't be any debates either because of Biden's failure to cognate.

Trump utter lack of dignity is what screwed him, if he was even vaguely presidential, he wouldn't have elicited such a kneejerk response. He could have switched to PRESIDENT MODE (tm) when elected and never looked back.

With the economy tanked, with a legit claim to his administration dissembling the pandemic team and not allowing the CDC to take point, he's going to get covid heaped on him.

The only thing I can think that will save him is the utter abhorrant acts BLM and their jackboot antifa are committing and seem dedicated to keeping up.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:18 pm

^^^Pretty accurate read my friend but do you really think Biden is senile? That always struck me as sort QAnon-ish nonsense, but then, I don't really pay attention to Biden, he's a figurehead at most.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:57 pm

Yeah, to be exact, I don't think Cohen's book will move the polling. The virus will.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:10 am

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:57 pm Yeah, to be exact, I don't Cohen's book will move the polling. The virus will.

My gut says that you're right, but I don't see either the virus or the racial chimpout as being products of anything Trump did. I know you can't stand him, but look around the world at every kind of leader and government, from authoritarian to anarchic, everybody got a big bite of the shit sandwich. Our state is run by Blues and we've had tourism shut down since March and the virus is exploding: 355 new cases just today. And that's not the pumpkin colored Fuhrer's fault. If anything, it's China's.

Bennyonesix1 · Post by **Bennyonesix1** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:50 am

Shafpocalypse Now wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:16 pm I think a lot of you are underestimating Harris. The party is rallying behind her, in hopes of landing the executive job, thus she'll have the good advisors now.

If she isn't president by mid-2021 I'll be surprised. Biden seems to be falling further down the senility ladder daily. Trump is absolutely as sharp as a razor compared to Biden, there won't be any debates either because of Biden's failure to cognate.

Trump utter lack of dignity is what screwed him, if he was even vaguely presidential, he wouldn't have elicited such a kneejerk response. He could have switched to PRESIDENT MODE (tm) when elected and never looked back.

With the economy tanked, with a legit claim to his administration dissembling the pandemic team and not allowing the CDC to take point, he's going to get covid heaped on him.

The only thing I can think that will save him is the utter abhorrant acts BLM and their jackboot antifa are committing and seem dedicated to keeping up.

Nixon in 1972. Probably ends up leaving like Nixon did as well.

GOP hates him and will force him out within a year of re-election.

Caveat being he had Cohn and Stone as mentors so knows what is coming.

Bennyonesix1 · Post by **Bennyonesix1** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:51 am

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:18 pm ^^^Pretty accurate read my friend but do you really think Biden is senile? That always struck me as sort QAnon-ish nonsense, but then, I don't really pay attention to Biden, he's a figurehead at most.

He absolutely is gorked.

He has maybe a year at most before total loss of higher functions.

Schlegel · Post by **Schlegel** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:54 am

If you read the verbatim transcript of any recent Biden softball laden interview it's cringworthy. Hard to see how he'll put a sentence together under pressure. Even hardcore grassroots Dems are talking about the VP finishing the term.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:23 pm

All the mainstream news "stories" are pushing Biden having a widening lead. How is that possible if the candidate is falling apart?

Schlegel · Post by **Schlegel** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:31 pm

To quote a quote, "If you think of the news media as Democratic operatives with a byline, it all makes sense."

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:45 pm

Schlegel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:31 pm To quote a quote, "If you think of the news media as Democratic operatives with a byline, it all makes sense."

Uhhh, Fox News? Right wing radio? Right wing internet?

Fox News is the biggest TV news media going.

Bennyonesix1 · Post by **Bennyonesix1** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:45 pm

Fwiw I'm in ground zero Biden country and I've seen zero Biden signs and only one or two Biden bumper stickers.

I know zero crypto Biden supporters but 20-30 crypto Trump fans.

Ppl who will actually admit they're afraid to admit they like Trump. Especially women.

I'm not saying this is widespread.

But I'm not not saying it is widespread either.

Bennyonesix1 · Post by **Bennyonesix1** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:56 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:45 pm
Schlegel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:31 pm To quote a quote, "If you think of the news media as Democratic operatives with a byline, it all makes sense."
Uhhh, Fox News? Right wing radio? Right wing internet?

Fox News is the biggest TV news media going.

Yeah dude. You're part of a beleaguered powerless political faction fighting the good fight against overwhelming odds. Struggling daily against the savage beating your narrative and policy preferences take in the culture. Working tirelessly to find even a single outlet where ppl like you can make their case.

I mean where does one find neoliberal content today in the US?

Not Hollywood. Not kids cartoons. Not google searches. Not facebook. Not twitter. Not Latenight tv. Not ESPN. Not school teachers. Not the HR industrial complex. Not the Military Academies. Not the high ranking military leadership. Not the State Dept. Not the DOJ. Not the CIA.

I am amazed you can go on feeling so alone.

Yet somehow you nobly struggle on.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:03 pm

That's what I don't get. The self image of the Left is that they're fighting for the little guy against corrupt, racist, white Authority. Yet every major news outlet, every major corporation, academia, Hollywood, the recording industry, etc. all touts their line. Look who's on your side! Virtually every dominant force in American society for the past 30 years, or more. The very forces that made the world you think you're going to reform. Doesn't that give you cause for concern?

Bennyonesix1 · Post by **Bennyonesix1** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:06 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:45 pm
Schlegel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:31 pm To quote a quote, "If you think of the news media as Democratic operatives with a byline, it all makes sense."
Uhhh, Fox News? Right wing radio? Right wing internet?

Fox News is the biggest TV news media going.

This is why I find you so distasteful. This tendentious re-defining and stupid wordplay.

"Biggest tv news media going".

It's not in good faith or amusing and it's obvious.

All you do is smirkingly force your interlocutor to remove obstacles to honest debate.

Ppl should really just insult you instead of engaging.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:06 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:56 pm
nafod wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:45 pm
Schlegel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:31 pm To quote a quote, "If you think of the news media as Democratic operatives with a byline, it all makes sense."
Uhhh, Fox News? Right wing radio? Right wing internet?

Fox News is the biggest TV news media going.
Yeah dude. You're part of a beleaguered powerless political faction fighting the good fight against overwhelming odds.

That's what I don't get. Fox News news and the right sees itself as a beleaguered powerless political faction fighting the good fight against overwhelming odds, when it has the most powerful network and the Presidency in full synchrony. It still constantly plays itself off as the victim. Woe is me, everyone watches only CNN and MSNBC.

It's bizarre to watch.

Bennyonesix1 · Post by **Bennyonesix1** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:07 pm

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:03 pm

That's what I don't get. The self image of the Left is that they're fighting for the little guy against corrupt, racist, white Authority. Yet every major news outlet, every major corporation, academia, Hollywood, the recording industry, etc. all touts their line. Look who's on your side! Virtually every dominant force in American society for the past 30 years, or more. The very forces that made the world you think you're going to reform. Doesn't that give you cause for concern?

It's intra-ethnic cleansing.

Bennyonesix1 · Post by **Bennyonesix1** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:08 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:06 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:56 pm
nafod wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:45 pm
Schlegel wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:31 pm To quote a quote, "If you think of the news media as Democratic operatives with a byline, it all makes sense."
Uhhh, Fox News? Right wing radio? Right wing internet?

Fox News is the biggest TV news media going.
Yeah dude. You're part of a beleaguered powerless political faction fighting the good fight against overwhelming odds.
That's what I don't get. Fox News news and the right sees itself as a beleaguered powerless political faction fighting the good fight against overwhelming odds, when it has the most powerful network and the Presidency in full synchrony. It still constantly plays itself off as the victim. Woe is me, everyone watches only CNN and MSNBC.

It's bizarre to watch.

Your opinions are dull worthless conventional wisdom.

Schlegel · Post by **Schlegel** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:09 pm

Come on Nafod. To pretend that the bulk of TV and newspaper news isn't lefty is just gaslighting. Fox has such a big audience simply because there is so little competition for their TV audience. Sure, there's plenty of radio and online righty guys... they had to go there because that's where there was a space to be. The rest of your imaginary narrative is just laughable. You don't have be right wing to call out BS on the left and I can't even tell you when I last watched Fox news anything. I criticize the left harshly because I want them to be better than they are, and keep getting dissapointed.

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