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I can't stand you dude. Him either.

But as I said to fat cat, that's a fair point. The last phrase of they post was bullshit and I shouldn't have typed it.

Normally I'd apologize but fuck that.

Screw you and him.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:46 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:50 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:08 pmWhat are the odds these riots are being pushed/aggravated by irate Bernie Bros?

LOL. "Did you know the Jews didn't show up to work at WTC on 9/11"

You find it hard to believe that some Antifa were Bernie Sanders supporters? But you believed that white supremacists are the ones that caused the riots in Minnesota and now Wisconsin? You're being disappointingly ideological here.

I think to the extent Antifa shows up, and they vote, they vote for Bernie. A few things here inform my thinking that I don't think are idealogical.

Cops are shooting unarmed people on camera. You don't need to be a Bernie bro to care about this. Bernie bros are generally not primarily focused on racial issues.
Protestors are mostly black, a group that rejected Bernie.
People are likely protesting because the issue is legit and the cops' behavior is pretty outrageous. This isn't an astroturfed issue.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Cops are shooting unarmed people on camera.

Every time I see one of these, I wonder about all of the other shootings that were "justified".

The right wing were the original complainers about jack-booted thugs.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:19 pm I truly don't think SPELLS is like that. He's like nigfod, fundamentally good, but enjoys LARPing as an utterly misguided and rhetorically limited buffoon on teh interweeb.

Plus, he doesn't know you right? You're anonymous here.

How wrong you are.

While I *didn't* know who Benny was, his post implied a fear that he had not taken sufficient care to preserve his anonymity. His username also has a "I use variations of this around the Internet" kind of vibe. So I got to work.

It wasn't easy. I had a protest scheduled about the local fair trade patchouli cart at the farmers market not technically living up fully to the fair trade standard, but Kevin shows up every week, I was running low, and I max out at cancelling 3 people a week. I assembled my team, we reviewed Benny's fascinating post history, looking for codes, clues, etc. By the end, three of the team members were QAnon believers, which was a blow. However, we did... find... this.

Meet Benny161: http://ninjahousewife.com/chris-willis- ... benny-161/

Benny is actually a Muslim Malaysian women. I'll be honest, I was not expecting this. The IGx disguise persona was quite good. Benny if you are looking for some patchouli I have a pretty sweet hookup but you are going to have to act fast.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:51 pm

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:19 pm I truly don't think SPELLS is like that. He's like nigfod, fundamentally good, but enjoys LARPing as an utterly misguided and rhetorically limited buffoon on teh interweeb.

Plus, he doesn't know you right? You're anonymous here.

How wrong you are.

It wasn't easy. I had a protest scheduled about the local fair trade patchouli cart at the farmers market not technically living up fully to the fair trade standard, but Kevin shows up every week, I was running low, and I max out at cancelling 3 people a week.

Give me their coordinates

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Cops are shooting unarmed people on camera. You don't need to be a Bernie bro to care about this. Bernie bros are generally not primarily focused on racial issues.

Jacob Blake is a violent criminal, violating a restraining order, violating lawful orders of police officers, known to keep a gun in his vehicle per his previous crimes, going to the driver's side of the vehicle where a knife was found by investigators. He got himself shot. It would have been better if things had been different, but that's all you can say about that.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Protestors are mostly black, a group that rejected Bernie.
People are likely protesting because the issue is legit and the cops' behavior is pretty outrageous. This isn't an astroturfed issue.

The issue isn't legitimate and the cops' behavior is normal. You are believing lies.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Cops are shooting unarmed people on camera. You don't need to be a Bernie bro to care about this. Bernie bros are generally not primarily focused on racial issues.

Jacob Blake is a violent criminal, violating a restraining order, violating lawful orders of police officers, known to keep a gun in his vehicle per his previous crimes, going to the driver's side of the vehicle where a knife was found by investigators. He got himself shot. It would have been better if things had been different, but that's all you can say about that.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Protestors are mostly black, a group that rejected Bernie.
People are likely protesting because the issue is legit and the cops' behavior is pretty outrageous. This isn't an astroturfed issue.

The issue isn't legitimate and the cops' behavior is normal. You are believing lies.

He had three kids in his car.

It looks like the cops were pissed off he wasn't respecting their authority.

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:04 pm

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Cops are shooting unarmed people on camera. You don't need to be a Bernie bro to care about this. Bernie bros are generally not primarily focused on racial issues.

Jacob Blake is a violent criminal, violating a restraining order, violating lawful orders of police officers, known to keep a gun in his vehicle per his previous crimes, going to the driver's side of the vehicle where a knife was found by investigators. He got himself shot. It would have been better if things had been different, but that's all you can say about that.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Protestors are mostly black, a group that rejected Bernie.
People are likely protesting because the issue is legit and the cops' behavior is pretty outrageous. This isn't an astroturfed issue.

The issue isn't legitimate and the cops' behavior is normal. You are believing lies.

He had three kids in his car.

It looks like the cops were pissed off he wasn't respecting their authority.

Yeah okay, right. So why did he go to the driver's side, the one place the kids aren't? Don't be such a fag, you know what he did was stupid and provocative.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:20 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:04 pm

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Cops are shooting unarmed people on camera. You don't need to be a Bernie bro to care about this. Bernie bros are generally not primarily focused on racial issues.

Jacob Blake is a violent criminal, violating a restraining order, violating lawful orders of police officers, known to keep a gun in his vehicle per his previous crimes, going to the driver's side of the vehicle where a knife was found by investigators. He got himself shot. It would have been better if things had been different, but that's all you can say about that.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Protestors are mostly black, a group that rejected Bernie.
People are likely protesting because the issue is legit and the cops' behavior is pretty outrageous. This isn't an astroturfed issue.

The issue isn't legitimate and the cops' behavior is normal. You are believing lies.

He had three kids in his car.

It looks like the cops were pissed off he wasn't respecting their authority.

Yeah okay, right. So why did he go to the driver's side, the one place the kids aren't?

To get in his car and drive away.

Fucking duh

Don't be such a fag, you know what he did was stupid and provocative.

It also didn't justify shooting him 7 times in the back.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Cops are shooting unarmed people on camera. You don't need to be a Bernie bro to care about this. Bernie bros are generally not primarily focused on racial issues.

Jacob Blake is a violent criminal, violating a restraining order, violating lawful orders of police officers, known to keep a gun in his vehicle per his previous crimes, going to the driver's side of the vehicle where a knife was found by investigators. He got himself shot. It would have been better if things had been different, but that's all you can say about that.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Protestors are mostly black, a group that rejected Bernie.
People are likely protesting because the issue is legit and the cops' behavior is pretty outrageous. This isn't an astroturfed issue.

The issue isn't legitimate and the cops' behavior is normal. You are believing lies.

But at that point he isn't being violent.

Cops can't tackle him?

I do not think that failure to follow a directive automatically justifies shooting.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:56 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:19 pm Cops are shooting unarmed people on camera. You don't need to be a Bernie bro to care about this. Bernie bros are generally not primarily focused on racial issues.

Jacob Blake is a violent criminal, violating a restraining order, violating lawful orders of police officers, known to keep a gun in his vehicle per his previous crimes, going to the driver's side of the vehicle where a knife was found by investigators. He got himself shot. It would have been better if things had been different, but that's all you can say about that.

Unarmed man. Not violent. Not appearing EDP. Having a knife in a car is not illegal. I'm going to guess that a parent deciding to knife fight two cops who have guns pointed in front of his kids is "rare." Cops have ROE and I doubt "feeling skerrd" this meets the standard. If he's going to come out with a knife he 100% has it coming, but I've seen a million videos of people trying to get in their vehicle and drive away when the cops don't want them to.

The issue isn't legitimate and the cops' behavior is normal.

You're half right.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:29 pm Unarmed man. Not violent. Not appearing EDP. Having a knife in a car is not illegal. I'm going to guess that a parent deciding to knife fight two cops who have guns pointed in front of his kids is "rare." Cops have ROE and I doubt "feeling skerrd" this meets the standard. If he's going to come out with a knife he 100% has it coming, but I've seen a million videos of people trying to get in their vehicle and drive away when the cops don't want them to.

The issue isn't legitimate and the cops' behavior is normal.

You're half right.

Armed man. History of violence. Engaged in several crimes (violation of restraining order, resisting arrest, assaulting a police officer, failing to respond to to a lawful order from a police officer, carrying weapons in his vehicle which IS a crime).

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:36 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:29 pm Unarmed man. Not violent. Not appearing EDP. Having a knife in a car is not illegal. I'm going to guess that a parent deciding to knife fight two cops who have guns pointed in front of his kids is "rare." Cops have ROE and I doubt "feeling skerrd" this meets the standard. If he's going to come out with a knife he 100% has it coming, but I've seen a million videos of people trying to get in their vehicle and drive away when the cops don't want them to.

The issue isn't legitimate and the cops' behavior is normal.

You're half right.

Armed man. History of violence. Engaged in several crimes (violation of restraining order, resisting arrest, assaulting a police officer, failing to respond to to a lawful order from a police officer, carrying weapons in his vehicle which IS a crime).

Do you honestly not see any way in which the multiple officers are not able to resolve this situation without shooting him in the back?

You know they didn't need to shoot him. I know you you know this.

Why are you applying layer after layer of rationalization on this?

It was a bullshit shooting.

I've already explained my point of view. It would have been better if they had arrested him, physically, before it got to that point. By the time of the shooting, any other resolution was unlikely and this shooting was certainly lawful. Blake 100% committed a series of crimes, on camera, that led to the situation and there's absolutely nothing you can say that will change it. Save your breath.

Fat Cat, you should probably take this up with Fat Cat, who thinks women shouldn't be cops because they can't handle physical situations without resorting to shooting.

Women lack the physicality to dominate and deescalate many dynamic situations. They're left with no choice but to escalate up the level of force continuum because they are physically incapable of doing otherwise.

I think if he realized that as long as a crime has been committed you can pop somebody he'd be cool with lady cops again.

In Kenosha, you can actually shoot a couple of people to death with an AR-15 and then get in your car and drive home if you're white.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:00 pm Fat Cat, you should probably take this up with Fat Cat, who thinks women shouldn't be cops because they can't handle physical situations without resorting to shooting.

Women lack the physicality to dominate and deescalate many dynamic situations. They're left with no choice but to escalate up the level of force continuum because they are physically incapable of doing otherwise.

I think if he realized that as long as a crime has been committed you can pop somebody he'd be cool with lady cops again.

There's no dissonance between my two posts. I specifically said that it would have been better if the police had physically restrained Blake prior to the shooting.

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:12 pm In Kenosha, you can actually shoot a couple of people to death with an AR-15 and then get in your car and drive home if you're white.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/k ... video.html

Open and closed case of self defense, as established even by the hostile NYT.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:38 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:12 pm In Kenosha, you can actually shoot a couple of people to death with an AR-15 and then get in your car and drive home if you're white.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/k ... video.html

Open and closed case of self defense, as established even by the hostile NYT.

They didn't say that at all. He appears to have broken a few gun laws, and lied about why he was there. Interesting juxtaposition of how the white kid with the AR gets treated compared to the unarmed man who may have had a knife in the vicinity.

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:38 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:12 pm In Kenosha, you can actually shoot a couple of people to death with an AR-15 and then get in your car and drive home if you're white.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/k ... video.html

Open and closed case of self defense, as established even by the hostile NYT.

And the police knew that when?

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:04 pm

Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:38 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:12 pm In Kenosha, you can actually shoot a couple of people to death with an AR-15 and then get in your car and drive home if you're white.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/k ... video.html

Open and closed case of self defense, as established even by the hostile NYT.

They didn't say that at all. He appears to have broken a few gun laws, and lied about why he was there. Interesting juxtaposition of how the white kid with the AR gets treated compared to the unarmed man who may have had a knife in the vicinity.

It shows him being chased, having a Molotov cocktail thrown at him and then shooting his assailant.

It then shows him fleeing, pursued by attackers that kick him, hit him with a skateboard, and draw a pistol on him. He then shoots skateboard and pistol wielders.

That's all established by the videos. Of the three men Rittenhouse shot defending himself, one was convicted of sex with a minor, the other was a burglar who couldn't legally own the gun he threatened the kid with, and the third constantly abused his wife. Rioting trash deserves a bullet.

Joseph "Jojo" (((Rosenbaum))): https://www.revolver.news/2020/08/josep ... -offender/

If the kid was committing a crime (he definitively was committing at least one, as 17-year-olds cannot open carry in WI), people attempt to disarm a criminal, and he kills them, he's not innocent. I don't understand why you are being so obtuse about this.

This kid drove to another state where he can't legally carry looking for trouble.

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:53 pm If the kid was committing a crime (he definitively was committing at least one, as 17-year-olds cannot open carry in WI), people attempt to disarm a criminal, and he kills them, he's not innocent. I don't understand why you are being so obtuse about this.

This kid drove to another state where he can't legally carry looking for trouble.

There will be legal proceedings and all of this will come out. Based on what I've seen, he has a strong case. In the meantime, you keep defending your rioting pedophiles. Your selective outrage behind a computer screen is bound to effect great social change .

Here's compelling evidence re: self defense WRT to the initial shooting of Rosenbaum:

- 11 seconds: Man fires a handgun
- 15 seconds: Rittenhouse starts shooting after being charged and assaulted
- 17 seconds: Handgun fires again multiple times

And another angle of the same event:

Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:53 pm If the kid was committing a crime (he definitively was committing at least one, as 17-year-olds cannot open carry in WI), people attempt to disarm a criminal, and he kills them, he's not innocent. I don't understand why you are being so obtuse about this.

This kid drove to another state where he can't legally carry looking for trouble.

LMAO. They were looking to disarm a guy with the dreaded death ray gun, the AR-15? That's what happened, is it? Please, enlighten me, how did you come to that conclusion? They were chasing a guy with a rifle. Apparently somehow knowing he was breaking a law and were overtaken with a deep sense of civic duty. He tried to flee. They continued to pursue. Didn't grab any of the dozens upon dozens of police around. They just chased him and at least one shot was fired. Some of them got shot. Who would have ever guessed a bunch of people, some of them felons, some of them felons with guns, would have been shot by a guy with a rifle they were trying to do harm to.

Here's what happened. They underestimated the kid. They didn't think he'd shoot. They were wrong.

Looking for trouble? Yeah, he'd have been better off staying home but anybody has a right to go to these protests, don't they? Don't know the gun laws there but wouldn't be surprised if he was outside of them carrying. Doesn't mean he surrendered his right to defense. Not smart but a guy looking for trouble holding an AR wouldn't have tried to run at all, he'd have just unloaded. Especially one who had every reason to believe he should be in fear for his life. I mean these peaceful protesters have, inadvertently of course, seriously injured and killed others, have they not?