All right you nerds-- NPR Top 100 SF & Fantasy books
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And some of the authors on that list, like Robert Jordan should not only be struck from the list, they should be erased from the public record.
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My first post in the thread was what shouldn't be on the list- a full 30% of them.
Jordan being an egregious example. Diana Gabaldon, I have been assured by a female friend who reads romances and science fiction, is terrible at both. There are many big name works as well that just aren't top 100 material. C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy, for example, is historically important, but unreadable. The Simarillion is an Encyclopedia, not a novel, and was really just a pile of notes by Tolkien pounded into book shape by others. Sorry, fans, but it's not even really a novel, let alone a top 100.
Jordan being an egregious example. Diana Gabaldon, I have been assured by a female friend who reads romances and science fiction, is terrible at both. There are many big name works as well that just aren't top 100 material. C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy, for example, is historically important, but unreadable. The Simarillion is an Encyclopedia, not a novel, and was really just a pile of notes by Tolkien pounded into book shape by others. Sorry, fans, but it's not even really a novel, let alone a top 100.
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No criticism (even though I have some as well, but anybody can bitch), just some additional personal favorites:
Frank Herbert's The White Plague
Robert Heinlien's Job: A Comedy of Justice
John Steakley's Armor
Glen Cook's entire Black Company series
C.J. Cherryh The Faded Sun series
Frank Herbert's The White Plague
Robert Heinlien's Job: A Comedy of Justice
John Steakley's Armor
Glen Cook's entire Black Company series
C.J. Cherryh The Faded Sun series
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Can I get a holla for Lois McMaster Bujold's Barayar Saga?
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Those were certainly better than the 30 I nixed.WildGorillaMan wrote:Can I get a holla for Lois McMaster Bujold's Barayar Saga?
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Here's a great book that not a lot of people seem to have read:
http://www.iain-banks.net/us/against-a-dark-background/
http://www.iain-banks.net/us/against-a-dark-background/
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Edgar Rice Burroughs
His Mars, Tarzan, and Pellucidar series are better than 99% of stuff out there, even now. I was reminded of "The Mucker" recently, and that is a great book as well.
Robert Jordan is terrible. If you can actually get through the Wheel of Time, you'll realize how much time you've actually wasted on him. Dude had to have died a virgin.
His Mars, Tarzan, and Pellucidar series are better than 99% of stuff out there, even now. I was reminded of "The Mucker" recently, and that is a great book as well.
Robert Jordan is terrible. If you can actually get through the Wheel of Time, you'll realize how much time you've actually wasted on him. Dude had to have died a virgin.
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What don't you like about the Wheel of Time? One of my main complaints is that Jordan stretched out that story line into too many books.Shafman wrote:Edgar Rice Burroughs
His Mars, Tarzan, and Pellucidar series are better than 99% of stuff out there, even now. I was reminded of "The Mucker" recently, and that is a great book as well.
Robert Jordan is terrible. If you can actually get through the Wheel of Time, you'll realize how much time you've actually wasted on him. Dude had to have died a virgin.
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I devoured those Mars books when I was a youngun.Shafman wrote:Edgar Rice Burroughs
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Through this list I have found and read several of the books I wouldn't have know existed.
Neil Gaimen is especially good. I read "Nevermore" and several of his short stories. On the library's wait list for "American Gods."
Reread "The Stand" by Stephen King.
Read the Kingkiller Chronicles by Rothfuss.
Slowly working through the list by downloading this stuff from the library.
Neil Gaimen is especially good. I read "Nevermore" and several of his short stories. On the library's wait list for "American Gods."
Reread "The Stand" by Stephen King.
Read the Kingkiller Chronicles by Rothfuss.
Slowly working through the list by downloading this stuff from the library.
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Quoted for truthiness.Edzekiel Zachariah wrote:1. Starship Troopers
2. Dune
The rest are details.
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Still no love for Phillips K. Dick?
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SCiFi Fans are gigantic fags
The top three that matter.
Lord of the Rings
Dune
Starship Troopers
Only pointy headed, pasty faced, skinny fat, sexually confused idiots would rate Ender's Game so high or even in the top 100.
Not one mention of Edgar Rice Burroughs, the creator of Tarzan and John Carter. What about Henry Rider Haggard's "She"? That list is a fucking joke.
The top three that matter.
Lord of the Rings
Dune
Starship Troopers
Only pointy headed, pasty faced, skinny fat, sexually confused idiots would rate Ender's Game so high or even in the top 100.
Not one mention of Edgar Rice Burroughs, the creator of Tarzan and John Carter. What about Henry Rider Haggard's "She"? That list is a fucking joke.
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I think disagreed with more than 50% if the list.Batboy2/75 wrote: That list is a fucking joke.
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The I Ching for the win!msr2112 wrote:Still no love for Phillips K. Dick?

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Just read Tarzan of the Apes and liked it very much. It's young adult level literature at best, but was enjoyable in its innocence.Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Edgar Rice Burroughs
His Mars, Tarzan, and Pellucidar series are better than 99% of stuff out there, even now. I was reminded of "The Mucker" recently, and that is a great book as well.
Robert Jordan is terrible. If you can actually get through the Wheel of Time, you'll realize how much time you've actually wasted on him. Dude had to have died a virgin.

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I found this a while back and enjoyed it:
http://wikilivres.ca/wiki/The_Moon_of_Skulls
Moon of Skulls, by Robert E Howard (from 'The Savage Tales of Soloman Kane') . I read it as a kid and liked it. Got a different perspective on it as an adult.
http://wikilivres.ca/wiki/The_Moon_of_Skulls
Moon of Skulls, by Robert E Howard (from 'The Savage Tales of Soloman Kane') . I read it as a kid and liked it. Got a different perspective on it as an adult.
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Gawddamn I love REH. That mother could write e'ry thing.
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An excellent story. I still remember the G.K. Chesterton quote it begins with:Turdacious wrote:I found this a while back and enjoyed it:
http://wikilivres.ca/wiki/The_Moon_of_Skulls
Moon of Skulls, by Robert E Howard (from 'The Savage Tales of Soloman Kane') . I read it as a kid and liked it. Got a different perspective on it as an adult.
The wise men know what wicked things
Are written on the sky,
They trim sad lamps, they touch sad strings,
Hearing the heavy purple wings,
Where the forgotten seraph kings
Still plot how God may die.
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Just a heads up that there was a good movie about his life from 1996 called The Whole Wide World.Ed Zachary wrote:Gawddamn I love REH. That mother could write e'ry thing.
It stars Vincent D'Onofrio and Rene Zellweger.
There's no action, but you may want to netflix it if you're a fan.
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Just picked up Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep and wasn't too many pages into it before I realized that I was reading Blade Runner.msr2112 wrote:Nary a mention of the great Phillip K. Dick! Only one in the top 100.
Recommendations:
Probably his most accessible: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (on the list)
Somewhere between really fucked up and pretty fucked up: A Scanner Darkly
Extremely fucked up (and that's putting it mildly): Ubik
Redefines fucked up and paranoid: Radio Free Albemuth
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"30. A Clockwork Orange, by Anthony Burgess"
Reading it right now. In English
At first was distracted by Russian words, tried to find them in English dictionary :)
Reading it right now. In English

At first was distracted by Russian words, tried to find them in English dictionary :)
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Recently re-read Dune and was dissapointed.Ed Zachary wrote:1. Starship Troopers
2. Dune
The rest are details.
Сame to the conclusion that it is better not to re-read books which you liked in youth :(
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