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All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:44 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/ ... /id/227647
Why Don’t You Just Let Us Hold On To That
Customers leave a struggling waitress a $12,000 tip. Thinking they may have accidentally left it behind, the waitress calls the police. When the deadline for someone to claim the money passes, the police then tell the waitress that, well, they’re going to keep the money, because it’s probably drug money. They do generously offer to giver her $1,000 for letting them seize her cash.
Of course, even if it was drug money, the waitress had nothing to do with the drug crimes behind the money. And once the cash was given to her, I think most reasonable people would agree she should be allowed to keep it (the exception would of course be if it had been stolen).
But the legal fiction underlying civil asset forfeiture is that the property is guilty of the crime. So if the money was used in a drug transaction (and some jurisdictions now even argue if the money will be used in a transaction at some point in the future), the money itself is at fault, and must be forfeited, no matter who happens to be in possession of it.
Once the cash is deemed guilty, the government gets to keep it. And spend it on government things.
I guess at that point the cash is no longer guilty. It’s just dirty.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:06 pm
by Turdacious
I'll bet she feels safer though...
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:47 am
by Kraj 2.0
"Probably" drug money just doesn't cut it. What basis do they have for coming to that conclusion? Too bad she can't complain or else the pigs will make her life a living hell.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:53 am
by johno
Doesn't everything belong to the Gov't? And we citizens should be grateful for whatever the Gov't lets us keep?
And those who make "too much" should be leveled?

Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:55 am
by Fat Cat
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:13 am
by vern
I thought this thread was going to be about
Batali.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:07 am
by Blaidd Drwg
vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about
Batali.
that fat fuck...i bought one of his cast iron signature pans (on accident) and it blows...how can you fuck up a cast iron pan?
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:22 pm
by Sassenach
Blaidd Drwg wrote:vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about
Batali.
that fat fuck...i bought one of his cast iron signature pans (on accident) and it blows...how can you fuck up a cast iron pan?
Tsk Tsk. Stick with Lodge pans. Mine are so well seasoned I can flip an egg.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:22 pm
by The Ginger Beard Man
vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about
Batali.
You wouldn't believe the shit that goes on with tips.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:28 pm
by TerryB
Jezebel Jones wrote:Blaidd Drwg wrote:vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about
Batali.
that fat fuck...i bought one of his cast iron signature pans (on accident) and it blows...how can you fuck up a cast iron pan?
Tsk Tsk. Stick with Lodge pans. Mine are so well seasoned I can flip an egg.
I love my cast iron skillets but I've given up cooking eggs in them. I have to scrub the damn pans so hard afterward to remove the egg residue that it takes off all the seasoning. Tips?
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:28 pm
by KingSchmaltzBagelHour
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:13 pm
by Sassenach
protobuilder wrote:Jezebel Jones wrote:Blaidd Drwg wrote:vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about
Batali.
that fat fuck...i bought one of his cast iron signature pans (on accident) and it blows...how can you fuck up a cast iron pan?
Tsk Tsk. Stick with Lodge pans. Mine are so well seasoned I can flip an egg.
I love my cast iron skillets but I've given up cooking eggs in them. I have to scrub the damn pans so hard afterward to remove the egg residue that it takes off all the seasoning. Tips?
Stop scrubbing them. Wipe them out with paper towels. If you *must* clean them out do it with a sponge and hot water, no soap. Put them on a hot burner to dry and then re-oil with bacon grease. Skip the eggs for a bit. Stick with bacon and other greasy food, wipe out in between. Eventually it'll season enough that you can cook anything in it.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:27 pm
by Bobby
Instead of thunk.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:24 pm
by Turdacious
The great thing is that now she has to give 1/3 of $11k to an attorney, and will now have to claim the $12k on her taxes.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:29 am
by Blaidd Drwg
Turdacious wrote:The great thing is that now she has to give 1/3 of $11k to an attorney, and will now have to claim the $12k on her taxes.
They gonna getcha one way or another...
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:39 pm
by Schlegel
vern wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about
Batali.
Let me just say, as a guy who pretty much grew up in restaurants, that I will never give that guy a penny. Stealing your employees tips is about as low as you can go.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:46 pm
by vern
I've never worked in the food service industry, but I'm fascinated by the waiter blogs. You can learn a lot about human nature from reading them. It's amazing the lengths some people will go to justify stiffing servers.
Screw Batali.

Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:06 pm
by Holland Oates
vern wrote:I've never worked in the food service industry, but I'm fascinated by the waiter blogs. You can learn a lot about human nature from reading them. It's amazing the lengths some people will go to justify stiffing servers.
Screw Batali.

I used to read a New York waiter's blog religiously. I've never understood treating the people that serve you like shit simply because of what they do. Strangely enough a lot of waiters/watresses I know hate to see a table full of knee grows seated in their section.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:36 pm
by The Ginger Beard Man
Ed Zachary wrote:vern wrote:I've never worked in the food service industry, but I'm fascinated by the waiter blogs. You can learn a lot about human nature from reading them. It's amazing the lengths some people will go to justify stiffing servers.
Screw Batali.

I used to read a New York waiter's blog religiously. I've never understood treating the people that serve you like shit simply because of what they do. Strangely enough a lot of waiters/watresses I know hate to see a table full of knee grows seated in their section.
Where I work (I won't mention the name, but a famous NY steakhouse that I've named previously), we are required to kick back to the management or they fuck with us vis a vis partners, stations and which customers they put in our station. However if anyone is "caught" tipping a manager, they are fired automatically and the union won't support us. Oddly enough, no one has ever been caught.
I'll take the knee grows over the English any day. Blacks can be good or bad, but I believe the English know better and fuck us on purpose.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:45 pm
by Shapecharge
My oldest son used to manage a steakhouse in Dallas and he watched but couldn't do much as a retired NBA player and hall-of-famer left a 10.00 tip on an 800.00 meal. He kicked the server a hundy from a little slush fund they kept for just such things. I would sucker punch him if I ever ran into him.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:39 pm
by Mickey O'neil
Links to said waiter blogs?
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:07 pm
by baffled
When I was waiting, catering and bar tending in college, I hated seeing Jews, Chinese and Filipinos at my tables or coming to the bar.
Jews were so stereotypically cheap it was almost comical. I quickly found out why my Dad said the Chinese were known as the Jews of Hawaii when he was growing up, and Filipinos are just disgusting people.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:25 pm
by The Ginger Beard Man
Mickey O'neil wrote:Links to said waiter blogs?
I'm gonna start my own and get you a link.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:29 pm
by The Ginger Beard Man
baffled wrote:When I was waiting, catering and bar tending in college, I hated seeing Jews, Chinese and Filipinos at my tables or coming to the bar.
Jews were so stereotypically cheap it was almost comical. I quickly found out why my Dad said the Chinese were known as the Jews of Hawaii when he was growing up, and Filipinos are just disgusting people.
I find that Chinese are incredibly cheap. Its not that they tip badly so much as that they will get two steaks for five or six people and take all night to eat them.
As for Jews, although I once started a jew hate thread based on how they tip, I was just fucking around. They can be hit or miss but when I was Long Island some of my better regulars were jews.
Re: All your Tips are belong to us.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:33 pm
by KingSchmaltzBagelHour
Mickey O'neil wrote:Links to said waiter blogs?