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More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:20 pm
by ___________
This type using Big Government to fuck over your life.
Thanks, Conservatives of Utah.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:50 pm
by ___________
*****

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:03 pm
by Fat Cat
I'm not okay with it. I'm not okay with the drug companies turning people into zombies. I'm not okay with databases of people's private lives. And I'm not okay with the motherfucking pigs. Not at all.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:04 pm
by Herv100
Fat Cat wrote:I'm not okay with it. I'm not okay with the drug companies turning people into zombies. I'm not okay with databases of people's private lives. And I'm not okay with the motherfucking pigs. Not at all.
THIS

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:10 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
Well DAM...you have to realize the big picture.....

nah..there isn't one. Pig People are corrupt, give them a rope and they'll hang you with it every goddamn time.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:22 pm
by Fat Cat
Yeah, but it's even more fucked up than that because the reason the guy was stealing those drugs was because he was an addict himself almost certainly. And why are there so many people addicted to narcotic medications? Because government has given billion dollar pharmaceutical companies the green light to pump their shit into Americans. And why? Because those same companies pay off politicians to keep weed illegal, alternative medicine difficult to obtain, and the medical establishment in their pocket. This kind of story stands at the very intersection of the corruption of the American medical, judicial, penal, and political spheres.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:49 pm
by Sassenach
"We don’t check every single search request," Steinagel said. More than 5 million records are entered into the database every year
Jesus Christ. This database shouldn't exist to begin with, but since it does, it should only be available to doctors.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:58 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
Fat Cat wrote:Yeah, but it's even more fucked up than that because the reason the guy was stealing those drugs was because he was an addict himself almost certainly. And why are there so many people addicted to narcotic medications? Because government has given billion dollar pharmaceutical companies the green light to pump their shit into Americans. And why? Because those same companies pay off politicians to keep weed illegal, alternative medicine difficult to obtain, and the medical establishment in their pocket. This kind of story stands at the very intersection of the corruption of the American medical, judicial, penal, and political spheres.

This is deadly accurate.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:16 pm
by TerryB
Fat Cat wrote:Yeah, but it's even more fucked up than that because the reason the guy was stealing those drugs was because he was an addict himself almost certainly. And why are there so many people addicted to narcotic medications? Because government has given billion dollar pharmaceutical companies the green light to pump their shit into Americans. And why? Because those same companies pay off politicians to keep weed illegal, alternative medicine difficult to obtain, and the medical establishment in their pocket. This kind of story stands at the very intersection of the corruption of the American medical, judicial, penal, and political spheres.
calm down

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:25 pm
by Fat Cat
you're not the boss of me!

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:05 pm
by buckethead
I'd be snaggin drugs too if I lived in Vernal UT

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:09 pm
by Turdacious
Fat Cat wrote:Yeah, but it's even more fucked up than that because the reason the guy was stealing those drugs was because he was an addict himself almost certainly. And why are there so many people addicted to narcotic medications? Because government has given billion dollar pharmaceutical companies the green light to pump their shit into Americans. And why?
These medications are prescription medications-- and pharmaceutical companies don't write prescriptions.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:10 pm
by WildGorillaMan
BucketHead wrote:I'd be snaggin drugs too if I lived in Vernal UT

QFT

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:10 pm
by Fat Cat
Turdacious wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Yeah, but it's even more fucked up than that because the reason the guy was stealing those drugs was because he was an addict himself almost certainly. And why are there so many people addicted to narcotic medications? Because government has given billion dollar pharmaceutical companies the green light to pump their shit into Americans. And why?
These medications are prescription medications-- and pharmaceutical companies don't write prescriptions.

No shit you dumb motherfucker.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:20 pm
by Turdacious
Fat Cat wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Yeah, but it's even more fucked up than that because the reason the guy was stealing those drugs was because he was an addict himself almost certainly. And why are there so many people addicted to narcotic medications? Because government has given billion dollar pharmaceutical companies the green light to pump their shit into Americans. And why?
These medications are prescription medications-- and pharmaceutical companies don't write prescriptions.

No shit you dumb motherfucker.
So how is this big pharma's fault again? Are doctors are addicted to free golf?

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:42 pm
by Holland Oates
Turdacious wrote:
So how is this big pharma's fault again? Are doctors are addicted to free golf?
Turdacious wrote:
So how is this big pharma's fault again? Are doctors are addicted to free golf?
You're stirring shit. Right?

You know this whole system works around free samples and kickbacks.

Big Pharma and irresponsible Docs are equally to blame.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:03 pm
by SAR
Turdacious wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Yeah, but it's even more fucked up than that because the reason the guy was stealing those drugs was because he was an addict himself almost certainly. And why are there so many people addicted to narcotic medications? Because government has given billion dollar pharmaceutical companies the green light to pump their shit into Americans. And why?
These medications are prescription medications-- and pharmaceutical companies don't write prescriptions.

No shit you dumb motherfucker.
So how is this big pharma's fault again? Are doctors are addicted to free golf?
Big pharm is a HUGE negative influence in Americann medicine. They market aggressively, fund research but reserve the right to approve of the finding, and generally game the system for profit.

The narcotics issue may or may not be big pharma-many of those drugs are generic and cheap. OTOH, here in Pasco county, there's a booming business of "pain control clinics" which are basically narcotics dispensaries. Last swat raid I went on, I told the operators that I have a list of doctors who are the biggest drug dealers around and suggested kicking in their doors and flash banging them.

A huge portion of car crashes, falls and other trauma I see involves someone intoxicated on narcotics-often legally obtained.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:07 pm
by Fat Cat
Turd, expert on everything, will now explain to us how he knows more about the harmful effects of pharmaceuticals than practicing physicians. Jackass.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:15 pm
by buckethead
SAR wrote:Last swat raid I went on, I told the operators that I have a list of doctors who are the biggest drug dealers around and suggested kicking in their doors and flash banging them.
If I make a post on, say, raising rabbits, do you think you could still work in the fact you go on swat raids?

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:22 pm
by SAR
to be fair, it's not all big pharma. There's a general mindset in the US, where a patient comes to a physician and wants a solution to their problem. The expected format of the solution is a pill. Many, MANY folks don't want to hear that improved diet, discontinuing smoking, slowing down on the booze, not drinking and driving, exercise, etc are solutions.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:22 pm
by SAR
BucketHead wrote:
SAR wrote:Last swat raid I went on, I told the operators that I have a list of doctors who are the biggest drug dealers around and suggested kicking in their doors and flash banging them.
If I make a post on, say, raising rabbits, do you think you could still work in the fact you go on swat raids?
no
although if I did, I might get to more than half of your posting frequency.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:23 pm
by Blaidd Drwg
The thing most irresponsible in this quagmire are the shitheel zealots who won't let me buy whatever the fuck I want, nor wi8ll they enforce the laws when I fuck up..

No one's fault: no one's responsibility.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:23 am
by Gene
An on-duty Vernal police detective apparently used a state prescription-drug database to target a couple and steal hundreds of their Oxycontin and Percocet pills, raising questions about how sensitive medication information is handled, said state legislators and attorneys for the couple.

Detective Ben M. Murray, 36, was arrested on suspicion of two counts of burglary in August and resigned from the department, but he has yet to be charged with a crime.
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The Utah Attorney General’s Office had no comment Tuesday on the progress of the case.

Murray visited the home of Russell Smithey, 42, and Candy Holmes, 37, three times a month from January through July 2011, saying he was doing a "pill check," said attorney Tyler Ayres.

So much for HIPAA..... and why can a Police officer see a "prescription database" without a Search Warrant? War on drugs, maybe?

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:24 am
by Gene
SAR wrote:Many, MANY folks don't want to hear that improved diet, discontinuing smoking, slowing down on the booze, not drinking and driving, exercise, etc are solutions.
This.

Re: More fucking pigs in the news

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:20 am
by Protobuilder
Fat Cat wrote:Yeah, but it's even more fucked up than that because the reason the guy was stealing those drugs was because he was an addict himself almost certainly. And why are there so many people addicted to narcotic medications? Because government has given billion dollar pharmaceutical companies the green light to pump their shit into Americans. And why? Because those same companies pay off politicians to keep weed illegal, alternative medicine difficult to obtain, and the medical establishment in their pocket. This kind of story stands at the very intersection of the corruption of the American medical, judicial, penal, and political spheres.
Hey, let's keep this discussion on the symptoms instead of the causes.
SAR wrote:to be fair, it's not all big pharma. There's a general mindset in the US, where a patient comes to a physician and wants a solution to their problem. The expected format of the solution is a pill. Many, MANY folks don't want to hear that improved diet, discontinuing smoking, slowing down on the booze, not drinking and driving, exercise, etc are solutions.
This is also true. I have done some work for several pharmaceutical companies and though it could be fun to think of them as evil henchmen twitching their mustaches, they do a lot of good. In some other areas, they are providing what their customers (doctors and patients) want and what politicians are telling them they should be working on.