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Ah,but Reagan was entertaining when giving speeches.

close enough:

Racist mother fucker that hated faggots - he'd fit right in here.

I hated that turkey-necked motherfucker more than I can ever explain. I am glad that he suffered a great deal before he died.

cleaner464 wrote:I hated that turkey-necked motherfucker more than I can ever explain. I am glad that he suffered a great deal before he died.

That Turkey necked motherfucker saved the World from glowing in the dark so Libs can go on bitching and not have to get familier with firearms to procure a can of beans for their fucking checker baby.

So he cut social programs that have no basis in the Constitution and built up the Military (as per the Const.) putting the Soviets on their heels while building up the greatest peacetime economy up to that point. His investments in defense boosted up Silicon Valley and laid the pathway to the Dot Com revolution that gave Clinton such a great base to work from and contributed to this online thing we all spend to much time on.

Greates period of minority upward mobility as well.

And as far as racist, what a crock of shit. The man once was at a function at the Calif. Governor's mansion when a little black girl in the pool went limp (the real sign of drowning). Reagan, having been a lifeguard in his youth jumped right in without hesitation or even saying a word and pulled her out and started resusitation untill the girl puked the water out and started to cry and then held her before handing her of to her parent. Alot of the Lib fucks you admire would have wavd their arms and screamed for one of their aids to do something IF they could be distracted by their own drivel and importance to notice what was going on.

It's not his fault FDR made a generation of Amercans think it's the Goverment's job to wipe their ass for them. He was about doing HIS job and did it better than most Presidents.

Yeah I hope Ted Kennedy sufferd and had nightmares about killing Mary Joe and all his rapes. That's one Tumor I can get behind. Same with LBJ and all the GI's he had die in vain while he tied their hands and micro managed the war from the Oval Office and he was a real racist cunt.

DARTH wrote:

cleaner464 wrote:snipped out all the stuff that you don't seem to remember clearly

And adding my own $0.02:

peel back the 20+ years of Conservative revisionist history-making.


1. He gets credit for winning the cold war single-handedly. This of course, is patently false. The “Great Conservative” did little more than mind the candy store while the USSR collapsed. The president of the United States is irrelevant to the fact that the Soviet system was crumbling right from underneath them. Just as Bush cannot take credit for the lack of an event (no terror attacks since 9/11), neither can Reagan be given credit for a consequence which was not brought about by him. Confusing correlation with causation is a problem in many different subjects, no less with politics.

The Soviet Union used its small amount of wealth to build up arms to compete with the US. The threat was greatly exaggerated considering that we knew their economy could not support such expenditures. If we were not in a military arms race, then the danger would not exist. If we were to enter an arms race, again, the danger would not exist because their system would collapse. Either way, their economic collapse was inevitable and they were never the threat they were made out to be. The truth is, the massive increase in military expenditures hurt everyone. It cost the US taxpayers greatly, and also hurt the Soviets population as well.


And lastly, the Soviets DID intend on spreading communism and expanding their territories. This further extension was have brought about the collapse even sooner. If the US had stayed out of their affairs, the Soviets would have probably tried to acquire other territories such as Afghanistan, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia among others. No doubt this would have brought about their inevitable collapse even sooner.

2. The “Great Conservative” raised governmental spending to unprecedented levels. Not only did Reagan increase government expenditures on national defense, but he also increased domestic spending as well. Between 1980 and 1986, federal spending went from 21.6% of GNP to 24.3% of GNP. Reagan had cooperated with the Democrats to increase domestic spending in exchange for being able to increase defense spending.

Federal spending $590 billion in 1980, and had increased to $1.14 trillion by 1988, nearly doubling the amount spent. And again, despite popular opinion, this increase was NOT mostly defense spending. In fact, only $150 billion of that increase was directed towards military budgets, where nearly $400 billion was spent on domestic programs. Reagan's economic policies were a disaster for working-class Americans. Reagan presided over the worst recession since the 1930s, and economic growth in the 1980s was lower than in the 1970s, despite the stimulus of military Keynesian policies, which created massive federal budget deficits and tripled the federal debt. By the end of the decade, real wages were down and the poverty rate had increased by 20 percent.

When their beliefs are threatened, they act as all zealots, they continue to propagate discredited misconceptions in the hopes that by repetition they might alter reality. Wishing for it doesn't make it so. It merely obscures accurate observations.

3. Reagan is credited for massive deregulation. Jimmy Carter was actually the real deregulator. The few deregulation acts that Reagan actually did get around to, were already in the process from the Cater administration – one of the few things that Carter did correctly.

Neither did Reagan fight the welfare state which he was credited for. While he promised to fight for welfare reform, it never happened. In fact, by the end of his administration, Reagan had increased the Aid to Families with Dependent Children by 10%.

4. Reagan was responsible for the supply of heavy weaponry to Iran. It was paid as ransom for U.S. hostages in Lebanon. Of course, not only was this illegal for Reagan to do, but this supply of weapons and in turn, wealth, funding terrorist organizations who killed thousands of people.

What resulted was a massive cover up, and an unfortunate escaped impeachment (Oh, and the creation of all things terrorist).

5. Reagan ignored the AIDS crisis because of its association with gay sex, and telling Nancy, “they that live in sin shall die in sin.” Reagan refused to mention AIDS publicly for six years, under-funded federal programs dealing with the disease and, according to his authorized biography, said, that the Lord brought down this plague, because illicit sex is against the Ten Commandments. C. Everett Koop, Reagan's surgeon general, later revealed, because transmission of AIDS was understood primarily in the homosexual population and in those who abused intravenous drugs, the advisors to the president took the stand, they are only getting what they justly deserve.

6. And the coup de grace: Reagan was a racist. Reagan delivered his first major campaign speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi, where three civil rights workers were murdered in one of the 1960s' ugliest cases of racist violence. It was a ringing declaration of his support for "states' rights" — a code word for resistance to black advances clearly understood by white Southern voters. Also, Reagan sided with Bob Jones University in a lawsuit to obtain federal tax exemptions that had been denied by the IRS. The IRS denied tax exemptions to segregated private schools. Many of them were schools such as Bob Jones University, which enrolled a handful of minority students but prohibited interracial dating and marriage. It was the basis of this discrimination that the IRS denied the tax exemption.

Yes I Have Balls wrote:6. And the coup de grace: Reagan was a racist. Reagan delivered his first major campaign speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi, where three civil rights workers were murdered in one of the 1960s' ugliest cases of racist violence. It was a ringing declaration of his support for "states' rights" — a code word for resistance to black advances clearly understood by white Southern voters. Also, Reagan sided with Bob Jones University in a lawsuit to obtain federal tax exemptions that had been denied by the IRS. The IRS denied tax exemptions to segregated private schools. Many of them were schools such as Bob Jones University, which enrolled a handful of minority students but prohibited interracial dating and marriage. It was the basis of this discrimination that the IRS denied the tax exemption.

He started his campaign in New Jersey and Detroit. That's allready been debunked.

REAGINA WON THE COLD WAR......snerk.


My shitty backwater middle school history teacher in 1981 was telling us all how the USSR wouldn't exist another a decade because it was bankrupting itself. We were all aghast having been raised on the threat of a Red Menace. Reagan got very lucky to have the wall come down while he was still moderately cogent but he had fuck all to do with it.

My two favorite officer friendly communicator quotes...

Let's Kill Protestors.

Reagan responded to questions about campus protest movements saying, "If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement."

Let's hope the poor die.

SLA demands food distribution to the poor, Reagan jokes, "It's just too bad we can't have an epidemic of botulism."

I don't like to speak ill of the dead but I've got no love for Reagan.

DARTH wrote:

He started his campaign in New Jersey and Detroit. That's allready been debunked.

Debunked? Howso?
Philly, MS was his first speech after the 1980 RNC - if you want to quibble with 'started his campaign,' fine. But debunked?

-100 punk points for all of you not contributing appropriate music this thread.

I expect it from the rest of you uncultured shitheads-- but DRATH's punkass knows better.

After the Bradys talked his dumb ass into backing the Feinswine ban and the Brady Bull I wouldn't have pissed on his head to put out a fire. When I watched him on TV speaking in favor of that shit I was like "Fuck me, why did I vote for that dumb prick?".

The "War on Drugs" though.... man, that has been Reagan's gift that keeps on giving and giving. Three million people in the slammer later and kids can still buy weed at school.

Turdacious wrote:

-100 punk points for all of you not contributing appropriate music this thread.

I expect it from the rest of you uncultured shitheads-- but DRATH's punkass knows better.

-300 for sneaking a jerry brown screed into a reagan thread.

http://sonicoverload.blogspot.com/2009/ ... ibute.html

You're welcome.

Turdacious wrote:

Politics aside, some great bands there. DRI was fucking awesome live in 88.

Miliion of Dead Cops were pretty cool too.