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Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:52 pm
by DikTracy6000
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wor ... ckie-chan/
Americans know Jackie Chan best for his cheery, acrobatic performances in action movies such as “Rumble in the Bronx” and “Rush Hour,” made successful by his amazing martial artistry and self-effacing comedy. Chinese know Chan, a Hong Kong native, for largely the same reasons. But they also know him for something most Americans might find surprising: He is passionately political, a staunch defender of the Chinese Communist Party and harsh critic of anyone he sees as opposing Beijing. Today, that includes the United States.
Chan, responding to widespread criticism of China’s recent censorship of a popular newspaper, insisted in a Chinese TV interview that the United States is “the most corrupt country in the world.” He scolded Chinese who criticize their country in a way that foreigners can hear or see, adding that he’s careful to only praise China when giving interviews in the U.S.
Here are his comments, translated into English by Ministry of Tofu, which also has the video. It’s worth watching to see how animated he becomes when criticizing the U.S. and defending China. I don’t speak Chinese, unfortunately, but if you’re like me then you can follow him a little by listening for the word “Meiguo,” which means America. (Fun fact: It translates literally to “beautiful country.”)
Jackie Chan: The New China. The real success has been made in the past dozen of years. Our country’s president also admits they have the corruption problem, and some other stuff, but we are making progress. What I can see is our country is continuously making progress and learning. If you talk about corruption, the entire world, the United State, has no corruption?
Host: America.
Chan: The most corrupt in the world.
Host: Really?
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:12 pm
by tough old man
Couldnt we just call it "Jackie Chan tells the truth"?
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:23 pm
by TerryB
The guy loves his country, for better or for worse, and it's hard to argue the US isn't corrupt. Whether it's the "most" corrupt? Well, actors usually shouldn't be listened to.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:15 pm
by Bobby
If it isn`t Arnold or Chuck!
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:22 pm
by Batboy2/75
Name a good movie that Chink has made in the last 10 years?
To an actor, writer, etc any publicity is good publicity. Short of being a pedophile or goat fucker, any controversial comment is good for keeping your name in print.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:00 pm
by Kraj 2.0
What's the problem? Only Americans are supposed to love their country and be biasedly uncritical of it? The guy's Chinese. It's to be expected that he loves China. And don't give me the "He made his money in America so he should kiss America's ass" excuse either. If that's the case then we should all be kissing China's ass since 98% of the shit we use every day is made in China.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:09 pm
by baffled
Being 1/8 Japanese, I naturally despise all things Chinese. Except those that I buy. And Gong Li. And Zhang ziyi.
But fuck this shit.
America Motherfucker! Do you speak it?
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:48 am
by Chessman
He knows where his money comes from and it ain't the US. He makes bank in China every time one of his crappy movies comes out. People in Asia know him differently than in the US. In the US, people think he's a playful clown. In Asia, he's known as a drunk, womanizing, suckup to the commies. He's seen as an embarrassment even in his native Hong Kong.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:00 am
by Blaidd Drwg
Chessman wrote:He knows where his money comes from and it ain't the US. He makes bank in China every time one of his crappy movies comes out. People in Asia know him differently than in the US. In the US, people think he's a playful clown. In Asia, he's known as a drunk, womanizing, suckup to the commies. He's seen as an embarrassment even in his native Hong Kong.
That's funny. I've always thought of him as a substandard acrobat in the Bruce Lee fashion, famously charismatic shit talker. Like Bruce Lee, he's a benchmark celebrity, those who revere are an unhappy and unlucky persons to be avoided.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:06 am
by syaigh
He was terrible on SNL. Terrible. Like embarrassingly so.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:27 am
by dead man walking
DikTracy6000 wrote: Here are his comments, translated into English by Ministry of Tofu,
say what?
the ministry of tofu?
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:55 am
by Protobuilder
The guy is an entertainer who has been outspoken as being pro-Beijing and pro-party for as long as I can remember - there is nothing new here. His comments, as I understand them, are more that countries should project their best image to the world and take care of problems at home than criticizing the US. Besides, you can't argue that the US isn't corrupt.
More troubling are the Nationalistic comments related to people being unable to criticize the US. Freedom of religion...as long as you believe as I do. Freedom of speech...as long as you don't say anything that I don't like.
The guy is an actor. At least he has a better handle on political issues than many Hollywood actors who speak out on such issues.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:03 am
by baffled
Chessman wrote:He knows where his money comes from and it ain't the US. He makes bank in China every time one of his crappy movies comes out. People in Asia know him differently than in the US. In the US, people think he's a playful clown. In Asia, he's known as a drunk, womanizing, suckup to the commies. He's seen as an embarrassment even in his native Hong Kong.
I always thought he was a homo? He's a drunk womanizer?
I've changed my mind. He's fine with me.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:31 am
by Protobuilder
baffled wrote:Chessman wrote:He knows where his money comes from and it ain't the US. He makes bank in China every time one of his crappy movies comes out. People in Asia know him differently than in the US. In the US, people think he's a playful clown. In Asia, he's known as a drunk, womanizing, suckup to the commies. He's seen as an embarrassment even in his native Hong Kong.
I always thought he was a homo? He's a drunk womanizer?
I've changed my mind. He's fine with me.
Serious womanizer - Asian women don't like him as much as guys like Chow Yun Fat.
He makes serious cash in the US though. He has spoken out that piracy in Asia is the reason that he comes to the US every few movies to bankroll films that he does in Hong Kong. I wouldn't say that he is an embarrassment either - Hong Kong people are pissed because he has said that they have too much freedom and that Chinese people need to be controlled. He is still held in fairly high esteem though, simply not seen as the a-political clown that he is in the US.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:58 am
by baffled
What kind of chicks does he bang?
Hot ones? Or does he just take what he can get and parade around town with new chicks all the time, ugly or not?
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:15 am
by Protobuilder
baffled wrote:What kind of chicks does he bang?
Hot ones? Or does he just take what he can get and parade around town with new chicks all the time, ugly or not?
OK, perhaps "womanizer" is a bit much.
This is his wife. They have been married forever.
Some time back, this woman said that he was the father of her kid. Chan didn't deny the affair but didn't do anything about the child.
Ever since then, he has a bad rap among women in Asia - not sure that there are any other confirmed women but we could pretend that he banged Zhang ZhiYi and I could post pictures of her if you like.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:35 am
by baffled
Terry B. wrote:we could pretend that he banged Zhang ZhiYi and I could post pictures of her if you like.
That could work
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:05 am
by Protobuilder
baffled wrote:Terry B. wrote:we could pretend that he banged Zhang ZhiYi and I could post pictures of her if you like.
That could work
Oh my, could it.
Did you hear rumors about her?
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:29 am
by baffled
Terry B. wrote:baffled wrote:Terry B. wrote:we could pretend that he banged Zhang ZhiYi and I could post pictures of her if you like.
That could work
Oh my, could it.
Did you hear rumors about her?
Extremely pro-Beijing.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:34 am
by Protobuilder
vs.

Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:36 pm
by Gin Master
Actor. Hates America. Loves Communism. This is shocking.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:03 pm
by Gary John
Late to the party here.
For the 1/8th Japanese.
The Japanese are Chinese.
Killed off most of the native population a long time ago.
Most Chinese men have a "second" wife once they have the money.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:10 pm
by baffled
Shut up.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:23 am
by Protobuilder
baffled wrote:Shut up.
Thank you.
Re: Jackie Chan hates America
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:29 am
by Abandoned by Wolves
I really enjoyed the American releases of "Super Cop","First Strike" and "Drunken Master",so I'm not hating on Chan, but I'm not really a fan. Chan hasn't done anything really interesting since then.
Chan's a celebrity who got to be a celebrity by doing really cinematically impressive martial arts choreography and having a "pop-eyed, oh-what-the-hell-NOW?? (a quote but I don't remember whose)" screen presence that was a nice change from the usual stoic preeners who tried to take Lee's place. He can just about "act", which is to say he can be himself on screen. He's a product of his time and place and the system and culture he came from has been very good to him.
Why should anyone care what he thinks, any more than they should care what Cung Le or Oliver Grunier or Tony Jaa thinks?