Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spying?
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:11 pm
What's wrong with you liberty loving cunts??
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Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spying?
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Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:25 pm
It keeps getting mysteriously deleted
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:57 pm
The niggers in charge are too stupid to make sense of it all, anyways.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:28 pm
Glenn Greenwald wrote:The way things are supposed to work is that we're supposed to know virtually everything about what they do: that's why they're called public servants. They're supposed to know virtually nothing about what we do: that's why we're called private individuals.
This dynamic - the hallmark of a healthy and free society - has been radically reversed. Now, they know everything about what we do, and are constantly building systems to know more. Meanwhile, we know less and less about what they do, as they build walls of secrecy behind which they function. That's the imbalance that needs to come to an end.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:43 pm
now we know why you don't click links. you're part of that prism shit, you spying mutherfucker.protobuilder wrote:What's wrong with you liberty loving cunts??
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:21 pm
Obama says it's legal. Therefore it is.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:09 pm
People are getting Obama flu. They are so sick of everyday there being another case of dumbass that they just chalk it up to yeah we missed it on this clown. Maybe next time.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:41 pm
you guys do realize these programs began under the "we need a modern day pearl harbor" and "you're either with us or against us" and "mission accomplished" administration, right?
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:14 pm
Yep and the gangs led by Obama and his types took to the streets with pitch forks and machetes calling for Bush's head. Now our king and his court have expanded the program and have sold the serfs that it was a damn good idea.and they are all clamoring for a chance to give Obama head.Thud wrote:you guys do realize these programs began under the "we need a modern day pearl harbor" and "you're either with us or against us" and "mission accomplished" administration, right?
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:15 pm
Who's to blame:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics ... rts/65969/
Hover over the pie charts for break downs by party:
Patriot Act, 2001:
Dems: 36% supported, 22% opposed
Repugs: 42% supported, NONE opposed
PATRIOT Act Reauthorization, 2005
Dems: 13% supported, 39% opposed
Repugs: 46% supported, 12% opposed
FISA Amendments, 2008
Dems: 19% supported, 35% opposed
Repugs: 45% supported, 0.3% opposed
PATRIOT Act Extension, 2011
Dems: 16%, supported, 29% opposed
Repugs: 49% supported, 7% opposed
FISA Extension, 2012
Dems: 18% supported, 23% opposed
Repugs: 52% supported, 2% opposed
Seems to be a disconnect of logic and loyalty among our resident angry republicans.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics ... rts/65969/
Hover over the pie charts for break downs by party:
Patriot Act, 2001:
Dems: 36% supported, 22% opposed
Repugs: 42% supported, NONE opposed
PATRIOT Act Reauthorization, 2005
Dems: 13% supported, 39% opposed
Repugs: 46% supported, 12% opposed
FISA Amendments, 2008
Dems: 19% supported, 35% opposed
Repugs: 45% supported, 0.3% opposed
PATRIOT Act Extension, 2011
Dems: 16%, supported, 29% opposed
Repugs: 49% supported, 7% opposed
FISA Extension, 2012
Dems: 18% supported, 23% opposed
Repugs: 52% supported, 2% opposed
Seems to be a disconnect of logic and loyalty among our resident angry republicans.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:40 pm
Nothing ever is the way it seems.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:05 am
We have the constitution and a well established rule of law to protect us. There is absolutely no reason to be concerned about this.protobuilder wrote:What's wrong with you liberty loving cunts??
Obama himself said so and he has given us the green light to have a serious conversation about it - whatever it is, which he really won't tell us about, but he did say that all 3 branches of gov't are involved so it must be fine and dandy.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:28 pm
Let us know when Obama becomes responsible for what happens in the US Gov't. Obviously, 4 1/2 years is too soon for that.Thud wrote:you guys do realize these programs began under (Bush)
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:30 pm
Do you trust your government? As long as i keep getting all the free stuff, I trust!DrDonkeyLove wrote:We have the constitution and a well established rule of law to protect us. There is absolutely no reason to be concerned about this.protobuilder wrote:What's wrong with you liberty loving cunts??
Obama himself said so and he has given us the green light to have a serious conversation about it - whatever it is, which he really won't tell us about, but he did say that all 3 branches of gov't are involved so it must be fine and dandy.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:45 pm
Yes, he is one powerful nigger. He singlehandedly rules all three tiers of the US government.johno wrote:Let us know when Obama becomes responsible for what happens in the US Gov't. Obviously, 4 1/2 years is too soon for that.Thud wrote:you guys do realize these programs began under (Bush)
Interesting about the vote count though, how he has a greater stranglehold on your party than his own...
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:50 pm
In other words, Obama is not responsible.Thud wrote:Yes, he is one powerful nigger. He singlehandedly rules all three tiers of the US government.johno wrote:Let us know when Obama becomes responsible for what happens in the US Gov't. Obviously, 4 1/2 years is too soon for that.Thud wrote:you guys do realize these programs began under (Bush)
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:59 pm
Steve Doocy, suddenly a legal expert of PATRIOT Act violations, said that this kind of data seizure is a violation of the Act’s section 215, which “said that you could go after people based on individual investigations,” but forbids data collection from average citizens. He went on to call it a “gigantic overreach” on the Obama administration’s part.
However, in 2006, Doocy and other Fox hosts were saying the exact opposite about NSA wiretaps.
Media Matters reported that in the wake of revelations that the NSA might be conducting wholesale data-mining on U.S. citizens, the hosts of “Fox and Friends” openly nixed the term “warrantless wiretapping” in favor of calling the spying “the terrorist surveillance program” and went out of their way to justify the practice.
On January 25, 2006, Kilmeade said, “Let’s call it the terrorist surveillance program. That would be a lot easier.”
Doocy concurred, “And more accurate.”
“Yeah, more accurate too,” Kilmeade said. “If you’re for the NSA wiretapping without going to the FISA court, I guess warrantless, then most likely you’re Republican. If you are against it, you most likely are a Democrat.”
However, in 2006, Doocy and other Fox hosts were saying the exact opposite about NSA wiretaps.
Media Matters reported that in the wake of revelations that the NSA might be conducting wholesale data-mining on U.S. citizens, the hosts of “Fox and Friends” openly nixed the term “warrantless wiretapping” in favor of calling the spying “the terrorist surveillance program” and went out of their way to justify the practice.
On January 25, 2006, Kilmeade said, “Let’s call it the terrorist surveillance program. That would be a lot easier.”
Doocy concurred, “And more accurate.”
“Yeah, more accurate too,” Kilmeade said. “If you’re for the NSA wiretapping without going to the FISA court, I guess warrantless, then most likely you’re Republican. If you are against it, you most likely are a Democrat.”
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:05 pm
Sorry to inform you Johno, no, he does not rule all three tiers of the gubmint.
But things will be great once we get a white Texan back in the white house, then all these troublesome evolutions in defense/surveillance/technology will all disappear!
In fact, fags, abortions, drugs, globalism, terrorism, crime, global warming, and Mexicans will all be a thing of the past too.
Just wondering though, why did all these Texans (as just one red state example) vote for all these surveillance measures?
Sitting members who voted for surveillance every time:
Rep. Joe Barton (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Kevin Brady (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Michael Burgess (Texas, Republican)
Rep. John Carter (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Mike Conaway (Texas, Republican)
Sen. John Cornyn (Texas, Republican)
Rep. John Culberson (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Blake Farenthold (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Bill Flores (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Kay Granger (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Gene Green (Texas, Democratic)
Rep. Ralph Hall (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa (Texas, Democratic)
Rep. Kenny Marchant (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Michael McCaul (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Randy Neugebauer (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Pete Olson (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Ted Poe (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Pete Sessions (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Lamar S. Smith (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Mac Thornberry (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Weren't these guys gonna secede or something?
But things will be great once we get a white Texan back in the white house, then all these troublesome evolutions in defense/surveillance/technology will all disappear!
In fact, fags, abortions, drugs, globalism, terrorism, crime, global warming, and Mexicans will all be a thing of the past too.
Just wondering though, why did all these Texans (as just one red state example) vote for all these surveillance measures?
Sitting members who voted for surveillance every time:
Rep. Joe Barton (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Kevin Brady (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Michael Burgess (Texas, Republican)
Rep. John Carter (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Mike Conaway (Texas, Republican)
Sen. John Cornyn (Texas, Republican)
Rep. John Culberson (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Blake Farenthold (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Bill Flores (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Kay Granger (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Gene Green (Texas, Democratic)
Rep. Ralph Hall (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Rep. Jeb Hensarling (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa (Texas, Democratic)
Rep. Kenny Marchant (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Michael McCaul (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Randy Neugebauer (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Pete Olson (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Ted Poe (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Pete Sessions (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Lamar S. Smith (Texas, Republican)
Rep. Mac Thornberry (Texas, Republican) - all five times
Weren't these guys gonna secede or something?
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:19 pm
Apparently, Obama the President is not responsible and Bush the former President is. Or Texas Republicans. Or....Thud wrote:Sorry to inform you Johno...
Oh, look! Bright, shiny Republicans from Texas!!!
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:29 pm
Responsible for what specifically, Johno? You think these surveillance issues began with this administration, or will end with this administration, or are unique to this administration? In 3 years do you think your phone, shopping, driving, internet, etc, habits will no longer be mined, depending on who's elected into office? Just how naive are you?johno wrote:Apparently, Obama the President is not responsible and Bush the former President is. Or Texas Republicans. Or....Thud wrote:Sorry to inform you Johno...
Oh, look! Bright, shiny Republicans from Texas!!!
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:34 pm
Credit cards, highway toll passes, cell phones, land phones, browsers, GPS, domestic drones, stop light cameras, street surveillance cameras, face detection algorithms, DNA samples upon arrest, preschool photos database, etc.
None of this shit is new, nor is it going away.
The extent and ramifications of our lost privacy is a conversation worth having. Dumping it all in the lap of the boogeyman negro, not so much.
None of this shit is new, nor is it going away.
The extent and ramifications of our lost privacy is a conversation worth having. Dumping it all in the lap of the boogeyman negro, not so much.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:51 pm
Obama voted for the Patriot Act in 2006. He then signed the extension for it 2011. He also voted for the FISA spy bill in 2008 after saying he would not, and in 2011 he signed to extend it for 5 years. He also, of coarse, signed the NDAA. These are 5 instances he could have done something about these measures, yet he supported them. Saying "yeah, well everybody else does it too!" is not a valid argument. In short Thud, you're a fucking dipshit and a mark.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:08 pm
Yep, he single handled carried it through. Thanks for answering on behalf of Johno and yourself on just how naive you guys are.Herv100 wrote:Obama voted for the Patriot Act in 2006. He then signed the extension for it 2011. He also voted for the FISA spy bill in 2008 after saying he would not, and in 2011 he signed to extend it for 5 years. He also, of coarse, signed the NDAA. These are 5 instances he could have done something about these measures, yet he supported them. Saying "yeah, well everybody else does it too!" is not a valid argument. In short Thud, you're a fucking dipshit and a mark.
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:28 pm
Dear Thud,
After reviewing your posts on this thread, I have determined that you lack a rudimentary understanding of how our government works. It is not possible to pass a bill with a vote from a single Senator from Texas. Further you lack an understanding of how executive agencies work. I have no choice but to retroactively change your grade in 10th grade civics from a C- to an F.
V/r
Mr. Jones
Government Teacher
Woodrow Wilson Technical High School
Re: Nobody has started a thread about the NSA/domestic spyin
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:41 pm
Just when I thought you guys couldn't get any stoopider, in walks T
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