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Androstenedione
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:36 pm
by Bob Wildes
Most sports fans know that some members of the press made a big deal of finding androstenedione in Mark McGwire's locker in the late nineties when he was usually leading the major leagues hitting home runs.
I see that Randy barnes got a drug positive in 1998 for evidence that he used androstenedione. I took that crap from a company called OSMO in the late nineties and the thing I am positive of is it didn't do jack shit but make that company, OSMO, richer and me poorer.
I know that Barnes had been busted for AAS or testosterone before and that McGwire had been using the same, but it seems odd that anyone would believe that that product was performance enhancing.
Anyone here get anything from it? Even a placebo effect?
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:46 pm
by ccrow
Androstenedione was not one of the few good prohormones, it was either ineffective or worse, some of the side effects with none of the benefits.
I think at the time it was a masking agent for real drugs, in that the test couldn't distinguish androstenedione from some real drugs. So people that got popped for those drugs would say they only used androstenedione.
I could believe that there were some people whose individual chemistry matched up with it right and they got some benefits, but if there were they were few and far between.
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:58 pm
by Bob Wildes
Yeah, the masking agent theory sounds more believable than the powers that be honestly thinking that stuff did anything on its own.
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:13 pm
by T200
Not a masking agent. Just an excuse that flew to the public.
The shit always sucked. Fuck prohormones.
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:00 pm
by Shafpocalypse Now
Androstenedione was used as a nasal CNS stimulant by the East Germans. It didn't work worth a fuck orally. There were some pro hormones that were pretty kick ass when made into an njectible, iirc.
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:53 pm
by T200
Shafpocalypse Now wrote:There were some pro hormones that were pretty kick ass when made into an njectible, iirc.
Maybe was the case but test was always way cheaper and ready-made to set a man on the most direct path to excellence.
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:49 pm
by Shafpocalypse Now
Yeah, 1,4 androstendiol? Didn't aromatize iirc, and I knew a few cats who said it was almost as good as test and legal at the time
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:15 am
by T200
Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Yeah, 1,4 androstendiol? Didn't aromatize iirc, and I knew a few cats who said it was almost as good as test and legal at the time
I did that shit. Maybe equal to like 10-15mg anavar a day. So nothing that noteworthy.
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:34 pm
by Bob Wildes
T200 wrote:Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Yeah, 1,4 androstendiol? Didn't aromatize iirc, and I knew a few cats who said it was almost as good as test and legal at the time
I did that shit. Maybe equal to like 10-15mg anavar a day. So nothing that noteworthy.
You didn't get much out of 10-15mg of Anavar?
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:36 pm
by T200
Not 10-15mg in and of itself. No. Too low for me. Lowest amount of orals I found to have "feel" difference for me is 20mg Winstrol/day. Anavar is a soft touch.
Re: Androstenedione
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:36 pm
by Ryan
I think that was the one prohormone I ever tried and the only thing I noticed from it was less hair on my dome.