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3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:49 pm
by Bennyonesix1
The sci-fi books are both by Glen Cook: A passage at arms and The Dragon Never Sleeps.

The fantasy book was Holdstock's Mythago Wood.

Glen Cook is a truly great pulp novelist and I've read an embarrassing amount of his books and would recommend them all. These are no different.

Passage is a blatant Das Boot rip off but the setting is space. Very tense and forgot the Das Boot thing quickly.

The Dragon Never Sleeps is my second favorite sci-fi book of all time. Bester's The Stars My Destination is my far and away favorite. But TDNS is incredible. It's exploding with cool ideas. It's the Fall of Rome in space with insane AI self-directed starships instead of Legions. The clone stuff is maybe goofy. I have to read it again more closely. Backstory of the book is that Cook's publisher was an ass so Cook jammed an entire series into one book to fulfill his contract. It's a crime there's no HBO series made from this.

Mythago Wood is a jungian take on Celtic and shamanic myths. Holdstock tries to recreate the mindset of a pre-Christian pagan. Holdstock is a world class expert on Myths. Well worth the read. It's out there but a fun read and well worth the time.

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:16 am
by nafod
Thanks for the he tipper, Benny

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:40 pm
by Shafpocalypse Now
Going to second this

Mythago Wood and the sequels are stunning works jammed full of ancient myth and symbolism.

Cook is just a fantastic storyteller. I'd recommend the first 4 books of the Black Company series to anybody. If you really love them, you can keep going and finish it out. The Silver Spike runs a very close second to the best book in the series after The Black Company.

Funny you mention Bester, Benny, I just reread that.

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:32 pm
by Bennyonesix1
Tyger tyger burning bright...

I'm right about everything Steven.

In a high-strung neurotic annoying way.

But still...

Holdstock's Iron Grail series is impossibly good. That and Gene Wolfe's Soldier of the Mist are the top for me. At least as far as genre transcending art. The caveat with Wolfe is of course that he's a Cabbalist and that is the very worst juju... i have a screen shot of an interview with Wolfe and he's really verbose and open until the interviewer asks him how and when he came to realize all the occulted forces working to control the world... he says "no comment". Looooool. Idk. Wolfe's kind of perverse...

Clark Ashton Smith and Cook and Howard and Burroughs are the top pulp writers for me.

Bester is somewhere in the middle stylistically, I think.

The wild-card is R A Lafferty. He's probably the greatest of them all but he's so esoteric and complex, I honestly get overwhelmed. I mean, researching the Ottonian dynasty and the Spanish Carlists to figure out just one damn thing is a little much... But then sometimes I just read him for the high-weirdness and awe and accept I understand nothing hahahah

PS. The King in Yellow and Machen's stuff is wild and fun and well written but almost certainly evil.

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:02 pm
by nafod
My big box Barnes and Noble had none of them.

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Tue May 26, 2020 2:08 pm
by nafod
Bennyonesix1 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:49 pm Bester's The Stars My Destination is my far and away favorite.
Finally got a copy (on my Nook) and it's a page turner. Really enjoying it.

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 4:29 pm
by nafod
nafod wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 2:08 pm
Bennyonesix1 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:49 pm Bester's The Stars My Destination is my far and away favorite.
Finally got a copy (on my Nook) and it's a page turner. Really enjoying it.
Finished it. Great ending.

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:56 am
by Bram
Been looking for some good fiction, thanks for the suggestions!

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:49 pm
by Shafpocalypse Now
I'm girding my loins to read the whole Mythago Wood series again

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:20 am
by Bennyonesix1
It's enjoyable the second time through.

The Iron Grail/ Merlin Codex is maybe better.

It's all pretty much the same world though.

I'm going to try Wolfe's Soldier in the Mist again.

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:39 pm
by nafod
I have The Broken Earth Trilogy sitting on a shelf. Bought it based on the reviews.

Need to finish The Dispossessed by Le Guin first. Interesting book and timely, as it talks about anarchy versus government. Food for thought.

I read the Gene Wolfe's Book of The New Sun based on recommendations here. that was great.

Re: 3 excellent books: 2 sci-fi and one Fantasy

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:50 pm
by Bennyonesix1
If you can tolerate ambitious high-brow stuff then R A Lafferty is worth a look.

Past Master and Fourth Mansions.

900 Grandmothers is his short story masterpiece.

As in, he's more erudite than Umberto Eco and probably on the same tier as Roberto Callasso or Borges.